This site has now been visited
times since the counter was reinstalled 13 Apr 00.
The ORDNANCE page has had to be split; this page is a continuation of the main ORDNANCE page, Ordnance Continuation Page 1, and Ordnance Continuation Page 2.
On the main Ordnance page:
Unindexed ORDNANCE APOCRYPHA.
On the Ordnance Atomic Cannon Page:
ATOMIC CANNON
On the Ordnance Continuation Page 0:
ORDNANCE APOCRYPHA
(18 Dec 06)
On the Ordnance Continuation Page 1:
MORE ORDNANCE APOCRYPHA
On the Ordnance Continuation Page 2:
RAILROAD GUNS.
SMALL ARMS.
On Ordnance Continuation Page 3:
CALIBER (Calibre).
Anzio Annie
SMALL ARMS
BIBLIOGRAPHY
Russian Armor
HELP!
On Ordnance Continuation Page 4:
MISFIRES, HANGFIRES, and JAMS
(18 Dec 06)
Drake Cannon
(19 Dec 06)
Ordnance Models Page:
{unindexed}
Comet Metal Products Authenticast Models Page.
Some representative calibers (bores) are presented here:
CALIBERS IN ENGLISH AND METRIC MEASURE: 27 Dec 92
Rev.: 04 Feb 00
EVEN EXACT EXACT EVEN GENERAL
CALIBER CALIBER METRIC METRIC STANDARD COMMENTS
.118 2.9972 Daisy "mini" BB
.177 4.4958 Pellet BB
.218 5.5372 Bee
.22 5.588 Target
.223 5.6642 Zipper
0.23622 6
.25 6.35
0.25591 6.5 NATO Round
0.27559 7
.30 7.62 Rifle
.303 7.6962 Enfield
.32 8.128
.35 8.89
0.35433 9 Police
.357 9.0678 Magnum
.375 9.525 Magnum
.38 9.652 Police
0.43307 11 Gras
.44 11.176 Magnum
.45 11.43 ACP
.475 12.065 Magnum Weatherby
.50 12.7 MG
0.59055 15 G
.60 15.24 AC/MG
0.7874 20 AC/AA
0.98425 25 G
1.1811 30 G
1.37795 35 G
1.4567 37 AT
1.5748 40 AA
2.95276 75 G/H
3 76.2 G
3.46457 88 AA/AT German "88" FlaK 36
3.5433 90 AT
4.13386 105 H/G
4.7244 120 AA
5 127 N
6 152.4 N
6.10236 155 G
6.88976 175 G "Baby" Atomic Cannon
7 177.8 N
8 203.2 H/G
9 228.6 N
9.44882 240 G
10 254 N
11.02362 280 G Anzio Annie/Atomic Cannon
12 304.8 N
14 355.6 N
16 406.4 N
18 457.2 N Yamato (only)
EVEN EXACT EXACT EVEN GENERAL
CALIBER CALIBER METRIC METRIC STANDARD COMMENTS
where AA = Anti-Aircraft, AC = Aircraft,
ACP = Automatic Colt Pistol, AT = Anti-Tank,
G = (long) Gun, H = Howitzer (short gun),
MG = Machine Gun, and N = Naval.
Now, we need to cross-reference British guns designated by the weight of their
round; that WWII 17-pounder is/was a 3"/76.2mm gun (now confirmed). On 05
Sep 00, Ed Magnani sent me a copy of a table of U. S. Naval guns (from the
Bluejacket's Manual, USN, 1917, Fifth Edition), in which the 3" gun
projectile weight was 13 Lbs. and the 6-, 3-, and 1-pounders were (logically enough),
6.0, 3.2, and 1.0 Lbs., respectively. The Fort Nelson Librarian obligingly offered
this: "'pounders' began as a term in the late 17th century to replace names
like falcon and saker etc. It was a bit more logical and relied on the principle
that a bore of given size would fire a spherical iron ball [solid shot] of a certain weight
which, with allowance for fit [windage] and manufacturing tolerances, could be
assumed to be constant. The tradition continued after this direct link was lost
in the second half of the 19th century with the introduction of rifling and
'cylindro-conoidal' projectiles. This was because it remained a convenient way
[at least to the British] of identifying a gun and indeed differentiating two maybe
completely different kinds of gun that happened to have the same calibre, but {the
term} is no longer in use." However, we still don't have the actual diametral
equivalencies. Ed Magnani advised of an undated Arco reprint of Jane's
Fighting Ships - 1914, which tabulates U.S., British, and German naval guns.

Anzio Annie has an interesting story. I received a reminiscence from (the son of) an Anzio veteran who served with the 540th Combat Engineers and was blown 200 feet by a K5(E) shell. According to him, the gun was captured and the barrel blown and he took pictures before and after (which I hope to get and reproduce here). However, he also claims the barrel was marked "BETHLEHEM, PA", which I find a wee bit hard to believe and to which I think Krupp might take exception, unless he's confusing a K5(E) with a recaptured 155mm gun or 8" howitzer.
Here is the "official" 05 Jun 01 Ordnance Museum (APG) version of the story (virtually verbatim):
There were two guns that made up the German K-5 RR battery that shelled the Anzio Beachhead. "Robert" and "Leopold" were the names the Germans gave the two guns. Together, they composed "Anzio Annie." When the Allies broke out of the Anzio Beachhead, the guns were moved to Civitavecchia, located just north of Rome. There "Robert" and "Leopold" were spiked with explosives and blown in place. On 07 Jun 1944, the 168th Infantry Regiment of the 34th Division captured the guns. Leopold was the less damaged piece and was moved to Naples and embarked aboard the liberty ship Robert R. Livingston and shipped to APG. The fate of "Robert" is somewhat hazy; the best guess is that it was scrapped in Italy after the war {if anyone has better information, please supply it, with provenance}. In February of 1946, two more K-5 RR guns were brought to APG from Germany. Parts off those two guns were put on Leopold and the gun was tested at APG.
In 1950, however, those two K-5s, along with a 600mm Mortar called "Karl", a 420mm "Big Bertha", and a 21cm Czech gun, were scrapped before the Museum Director, Colonel {G. Burling} Jarrett could rescue them.
End of narrative. Read it and weep! (My sincere appreciation to APG for this narrative.)
The good Dr. Robinson confirms that "both Leopold and its partner Robert were captured in late 1944" and adds that "a crew member, Albert Saurerbier, destroyed the elevating generator and breech with explosives. It is presumed Robert was disabled as well. However Robert (perhaps another) seems to have seen action later (with Margaret) in W. Italy." Dr. R.'s ref.: "Anzio Annie - She was No Lady", pub.by R. J. O'Rourke.
As an ROTC student, I joined (briefly) the Pershing Rifles drill team and wanted something heavy with which to practice fancy drill. In the old Bannerman shop on lower Broadway in Manhattan (well before they moved out to Blue Point, Long Island), I located a huge military rifle up near the top of a display wall that caught my fancy; after the ancient old salesman clambered up and back with it, I bought it, added a WWI sling, and walked up Fifth Avenue and into the New York Public Library with this "cannon" slung over my shoulder (I DID remove the bolt)! In the Reference Section, it turned out to be an 1881 Kropatschek, serial number A25116, marked on the left side of the receiver: "Mle 1878 MARINE", "MANUFACTURE DE Mr DE WERNDL", and "Steyr-Autriche", chambered for the 11mm Gras cartridge; it was the black-powder immediate predecessor of the Lebel, the world's first smokeless powder military rifle.
You can read all about the Kropatschek at Keith Doyon's incredible MILITARY RIFLES (ca. 1865-1888).
(25 Apr 05)
Actually, the Kropatschek was the second rifle that caught my eye; the first was a Civil War era Brown, perhaps .50 caliber, which was unique in that it had a removable breech block with quarter-turn threads, just as on cannon, and a handle at the very rear end that looked for all the world like one on a bolt. I turned it down, for all its uniqueness, because it was too short for drill! Like the fish that got away or the antique car you didn't preserve!
At that time, or a year or two later to be more precise (ca. 1954), I had that heavy-barreled Colt Match Target Woodsman .22 semi-automatic noted above, with a carry permit and a sport blade front sight. The gun was purchased from a store in Yonkers and mailed to me when I lived in southeastern Nassau County; it was held for pick-up at the main Post Office in Far Rockaway. Unfortunately, that is in Queens County, which happens to be in New York City, which happens to have it's own version of the Sullivan Law, which meant I couldn't retrieve the gun! Eventually, I was able to get NYPD Blue (the term hadn't been invented yet) to issue me a "Detective's Permit", good only for a few hours, that let me get the gun and carry it in its box across the county/city line into Nassau. I was (and may yet be) a crack snap shooter and popped many a stone off quarry walls and such. There is a good bit about my adventures in the northern Adirondack area and Plattsburgh with that pea-shooter on my Adirondacks page. It was necessary in those days, in order to maintain a Nassau County carry permit, to shoot periodically with a registered gun club. I found this requirement onerous and when, one day while carrying in a closed hip holster on a village street, I found a weirdo tailing me, I sold the piece and turned in my permit permanently.
Ca. 1954-56, I wandered around the area east of Troy, New York, over towards the Taconic Range, along the Poestenkill and the Wynantskill streams in my spare time. On the north side of one of them, in a heavily-overgrown mini-flood-plain in unposted land, I found an abandoned 1938 Chevrolet sedan rusting away (it even had saplings growing through the rotted-out floorboards!). There being a high ridge immediately north of the car to catch ricochets, I proceeded to blow out the tires which, miraculously, still held air, and then to shoot out the windows and the headlights and the tail lights and the mirrors and so on, with my trusty Woodsman. Well, after there was no glass whatsoever left on the vehicle, I turned to cutting the hubcaps off by stitching the rims with .22s! Then I cut off the front axle hub grease caps the same way. Running out of ideas, I wrote my initials in the doors in 0.22" wide line-weight letters. The mullions between the vent panes and the main door glass on the front doors disappeared in this manner, as did the radio aerial and the mirror stems and tire valve stems. At times, I had to stop to let the barrel cool and often to run back to Troy or a local store to buy dozens boxes of .22LR cartridges; wow, did I ever run through cartridges! By rough estimate (then, not now with my trick memory), I poured over 100 boxes of shells into that car! There were endless things to shoot - cutting the hood panels away was tricky and cost dearly but that left the valve cover available to cut away. Spark plug ceramics are a great precision target, as are the distributor cap leads and carburetor links. When the sun was right, shooting out the instruments on the panel from behind the car, through the tiny rear window, was quite a blast (pardon the pun). The fenders got neatly sectioned and the ornaments were removed intact by cutting the sheet metal from around them! And, of course, the Bakelite-like material on the steering wheel just begged to be chipped away, as did the upholstery, etc. I can't begin to remember what else I did to that poor car but I kept at it for TWO years, until there was't anything left a .22LR could pierce! Incidentally, I was up that way in Jul 99 and couldn't even find the field, let alone the car.
Not strictly to do with Aberdeen Proving Ground and Ordnance, the Mercury Cosmopolitan in the photo of my old Jag was the "locale" of two great stories (or so I think). That was the car in which we were riding when we hit a sharp bump and the passenger in the left rear seat made a most peculiar noise, a sort of "YIP", followed by a low moan which he kept repeating, louder and LOUDER and LOUDER! On stopping precipitously, we found the poor guy with the broken forward end of the left rear spring protruding through the floor pan and seat cushion into his private regions! Early that Spring, the owner, who lived in the same civilian BOQ as I, parked the car behind the BOQ while he took off for a long weekend; what he'd forgotten was that he'd left a deer's head from a recent hunt in the trunk and the weather turned very hot. The sweet smell that quickly emanated from the car as quickly became unendurable as the sun beat down! We finally took a crowbar to the trunk and the sight and smell were (fortunately for you) indescribable!
Icks wrote other books and I have several German books, plus the Authenticast and MiniTanks catalogs and old (Korean-vintage) Army technical manuals listing all the vehicles in service, if I ever unpack far enough to find them.
"TANKS ARE MIGHTY FINE THINGS", Chrysler Corporation, ca. 1942 {?}, promotional booklet about tank production.
More citations to follow (especially when I find my copies).
While not a Russian armor nut, I did grow up during WWII and to see a collection with the T-27 (a Vickers-Armstrong Carden-Lloyd type), T-28 (a derivative of the Christie BT), T-34, JS-I, JS-III, etc., and even an armored railcar with two turrets from the T-10*, a Volga gunboat with a T-34/85 turret, and a Yak-9 blew me away!
Unfortunately, most of my ordnance books are packed away and inaccessible so I could not document this but I thought I remembered these vehicles well - wrong after 55 years. Henk did look it up and even sent photos of PST models to show the differences. I also looked up the QualityCast (ex-AuthentiCast) line of Soviet tanks to double check.
I still have a balsa model I made, ca. 1945, of a KV-122 (from a KV-I kit) with a homemade turret, supposedly that of a JS-I, which looks nothing at all like any of these. I knew where the model was and dug it out and took this photo to let you, dear readers, puzzle this one out:
Kinda hard to do when the turret did not turn up anywhere (oooh, what treasures did, though!). On this heavily-customized model, the driver's vision hatch hinges upward and the baffled engine compartment grilles are removable and were to have fine screeing installed (never happened). Except for a heavy load of dust (which shows the turret was there not so very long ago), it's held up rather well for a 55 year old balsa model. The chassis measures 10" (25.4cm) long. Wonder where the turret went? As a salve to my wounded pride, the turret WAS a JS-II turret (more or less - what can a kid get from a poor photo?)!
I found these old (ca. '58) photos 23 Jan 2002; they weren't well focused but they do show the turret:

Speaking of old armor and museums, there's a new one down at Camp Shelby in Hattiesburg, Mississppi, the Armed Forces Museum; where they have a neat armor collection, including an M5 Stuart, M4A1 Sherman flame-thrower tank, an M42 Duster twin 40mm AA tank (the model I tested at APG), and Ser. No. 004 M1 Abrams main battle tank. But the pièce de résistance in my book is their T2E2 (later M2A2) light tank, "Mae West" (for its twin turrets), left behind after the (in)famous pre-war Louisiana Maneuvers of 1941:

It's supposedly the only one left, or at least the only in operating condition, and was a direct predecessor of the M3/M5 Stuart series.
Here is where I post inquiries (or offers) solely at my own discretion:
[Material about the Drake gun/cannon moved to
Drake Gun/Cannon on continuation page 4.]
(19 Dec 06)
To contact S. Berliner, III, please click here.

of this series of Ordnance pages.
Return to Top of Page