[this page was separated out from my RAILROAD, LI Rail Road, and LI Railroads pages;
you might wish to see them also.]
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NOTE: Page size is limited by HTML to some 30kB; thus, I've been forced to add this continuation page to fit the LIRR and related information, as well as several other continuation pages.
You may wish to visit my RR page, as well.
Also, LILS - the Long Island Live Steamers courtesy page had to be moved to a separate page.
There are two related topics here on these pages:
(1) The Long Island Rail Road and (2) Long Island railroad information.
There IS a difference!
The Long Island Rail Road is the official name of the oldest Class 1 railroad still operating under its original name and charter (the B&O was older but has been subsumed into CSX). Although there remain some offical documents with the two words combined, the correct name of the LIRR has the two words separately, "Long Island Rail Road"!
There were and are other railroads on Long Island - these also are (or will be) covered on the LI Railroads page.
NOTE: To conserve space, I have severely truncated the index on this page; see the LIRR index page.
ALCO-GE-IR BOXCABS
including LIRR boxcabs #401, the world's first production diesel road switcher,
#402 (first and second), #403, and many others.
Brooklyn Eastern District Terminal Railroad,
and its successor roads, the New York Cross Harbor Railroad and New York Regional Rail.
Degnon Terminal Railroad, etc.
On the (first) LIRR page:
Long Island Sunrise-Trail Chapter (National Railway Historical Society)
Sunrise Trail Division (Northeastern Region, National Model Railroad Association)
Steam Locomotive #35 Restoration Committee
On LIRR Continuation Page 1a:
LIRR FIRSTS
LIRR BIBLIOGRAPHY
On the LIRR Continuation Page 2:
Odd Incident at Wreck Lead (on the LIRR)
LIRR and LI Railroad Miscellany
Converted LIRR HEP/Cab Control Units
Central RR of LI - moved to this page 5 on 17 Dec 00
On the LIRR Continuation Page 3:
Nassau County Police 2nd Pct. Booth D/Locust Tower
Victorian Stations Still Standing on the LIRR
On the LIRR Continuation Page 4:
Blissville and Laurel Hill Sidings, Maspeth Yard, and Fresh Pond Yard
On the LIRR Continuation Page 5:
Central RR of LI - moved to separate CRR page on 17 Feb 02.
LIRR DE30AC and DM30AC Locomotives
Victorian LIRR Stations (continued)
On the LIRR Continuation Page 6:
Nassau County Police 2nd Pct. Booth D/Locust Tower (cont'd)
On the LIRR Continuation Page 7:
Victorian LIRR Stations (continued from LIRR pages 2 and 5)
On this LIRR Continuation Page 8:
Victorian LIRR Stations (continued from LIRR pages 2, 5, and 7)
On the LIRR Continuation Page 9:
(21 Jan 05)
On the Central RR of LI Page:
Central RR of LI - moved 17 Dec 00,

On the LI Railroads Continuation Page:
Long Island Railroads [with a link to the NYCRR (Hell Gate)]
On separate pages:
The New York & Atlantic Railway, lessor of LIRR freight operations.
Railroad Eagles - Penn Station, Grand Central Terminal, etc.
Long Island Rail Road Historical Society.
A great group of miniature live steam (and diesel and electric) operators running at mostly 1½" scale (also some 1" and rare 3/4") in Southaven Park at the intersection of William Floyd Parkway (Suffolk County Route 46) and Sunrise Highway (U.S. Route 27); their site with their PUBLIC RUNNING SCHEDULE and some other live steam links, has been moved to a separate page.
Victorian LIRR Stations
[Any reference to "Friends of Locomotive #35, Inc." is NOT an official
statement by that group.]
(continued from LIRR Continuation Page 3
and LIRR Continuation Page 5)
I want HAZARDOUS DUTY PAY for this "assignment"; I risked psitacosis, lung disease, and who-knows-what-else from all the pigeons roosting on the eave brackets and their poop all over the place!
I photographed and measured the station on 21 Sep 02 and had to put that coverage up on a new LIRR page 7 to accomodate the photos, dimensions, and other new information. Having done so, I found I needed even more detail and so went back on 23 Sep 02 and took far too many more detailed photos to fit on that page; thus, this additional LIRR page (8) with more than you ever wanted to know about the LIRR's Oyster Bay Station! Detailed photos more or less at random:
N side gable detailing {Image 17}:

That bothered me enough that, when I went back on 27 Sep 02 to photograph the deterioration noted below, I also took another shot of the ticket and gable area to show that, in fact, the windows ARE aligned; the air conditioner and the security grille give an impression otherwise. However, both photos also show deterioration of the belt mo(u)lding {Image 38}:

NW corner eave bracket detail - notice the 3½" scroll, the bottom of which is 75½" above the platform {Image 21}:
Eave bracket detail above W window ("D") on S bay - note 4½ by 3 diamond panes {Image 27}:
Also note the interlocking brickwork in the inner corner.

(28 Sep 02)


- All dimensions are from sharp
brick edge to sharp brick edge (unless otherwise noted).
The platform is not dead flat and the reference dimensions should probably be taken down from the major eave-level molding (with a ladder, but that puts one's head up amongst the pigeons and their poop!); a good, hard reference is that the distance from the underside of that molding to the top of the door B opening is 32". A good means of aligning things is the brickwork; they laid them true in those days!
LATTICE WINDOWS (moved from LIRR page 7 on 23 Sep 02): Regular 19"x36" Windows (A,B,G,I and L,N) - 8 panes wide x 3 panes high:The major brackets under the north and south eaves are 6" wide and are on vertical pates 7½" wide, with a 4½" high scroll at the bottom (except on the end ones, whcih are only 3½" high - go figure). The main brackets spring 75½" off the platform, 4½" above the scroll.______________ |/\/\/\/\/\/\/\| |\/\/\/\/\/\/\/| |/\/\/\/\/\/\/\| |\/\/\/\/\/\/\/| |/\/\/\/\/\/\/\| |\/\/\/\/\/\/\/| North Bay (Ticket Window) 2x19"x36" Windows (P,Q) - as above (each) North Bay (Ticket Window) 19"x32" Side Windows (O,R) - 6 panes wide x 3 panes high:____________ |/\/\/\/\/\/\| |\/\/\/\/\/\/| |/\/\/\/\/\/\| |\/\/\/\/\/\/| |/\/\/\/\/\/\| |\/\/\/\/\/\/| {This needs to be checked!} South Bay 19"x42" Window (E) - 10* panes wide x 3 panes high: * - (shy ~1/8 pane each side)____________________ |/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\| |\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/| |/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\| |\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/| |/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\| |\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/| South Bay 19"x26" Side Windows (D,F) - 4½ panes wide x 3 panes high:__________ |/\/\/\/\/| |\/\/\/\/\| |/\/\/\/\/| |\/\/\/\/\| |/\/\/\/\/| |\/\/\/\/\| South Dormer Flanking Windows (2) - 4 panes wide x 4 panes high (half-pane off laterally):________ |\/\/\/\/| |/\/\/\/\| |\/\/\/\/| |/\/\/\/\| |\/\/\/\/| |/\/\/\/\| |\/\/\/\/| |/\/\/\/\| East Second Floor Windows (2) - 6 panes wide x 4 panes high {}:___________ |/\/\/\/\/\/\| |\/\/\/\/\/\/| |/\/\/\/\/\/\| |\/\/\/\/\/\/| |/\/\/\/\/\/\| |\/\/\/\/\/\/| |/\/\/\/\/\/\| |\/\/\/\/\/\/| West Second Floor Windows (3) - 4 panes wide x 3 panes high:________ |/\/\/\/\| |\/\/\/\/| |/\/\/\/\| |\/\/\/\/| |/\/\/\/\| |\/\/\/\/|
Here are even more dimensional details which I realized I had missed. It is not my intention to document the station for historical record; only for modeling and general reference.
Among these are sill heights and more door heights. All window sills are 5" high and heights are measured from the platform to the underside of the sill.
South wall - the sills under the regular 36" windows (A, B, G, and I) are all 40" wide. The sill under window A is 39½" high, E is 38", G and I are 37¼"and L is 36¾". The sill under modern steel door C is 44½" wide and 9" high (sill heights vary with subsidence and variances in platform height, not cutting errors). The door opening is 81" high from the sill to the brick above. Door H is 113" from the brick underside to the sill, which is 8" high and 45½" wide; the top panel is 29" high and the door itself is 84" high, but both the panel and the door are modern aluminum replacements. Window J's sill is 5" high by 60¼" wide.
East wall - featureless; no changes.
North wall - The sills under the regular 36" windows (L and N) are all 40" wide. The sill under window K is 61" wide and 71"above the platform. Window L and N sills are both 37¾" high. Modern aluminum door M is in an opening 1frac12;" high above a 44½" by (only) 3½" sill and has a 27½" high panel above a 3" high upper door stop. Window P-Q sill is 82" wide and 36" high, while window S and T sills are each 36" wide and 70" up.
West wall - The modern steel door is in an opening 81" high above a 7½" sill that is 1" above the platform and 45" wide. DETERIORATION OF THE STRUCTURE - That hole in the roof at the lower E edge of the S dormer is monstrous; viewed from underneath in favorable light, it measures some 14" front-to-back and 18" side-to-side. While, happily, it is outside the walls, it is allowing the elegant carpentry trim at eave level to deteriorate. Far, far worse, is a leak at the opposte (W) end of the base of the dormer which is allowing rain water to seep into the eave-level trim and has rotted it away in the inner corner of the bay. Further, I know that there are several leaks in the station roof that drip INSIDE the building and will cause major damage if not corrected soon. Also, in the steady rain of 26 Sep 2002, it became quickly evident that the SW downspout leads into a plugged drain pipe because water pooled at the upper edge of the socket and began running down the pipe and the wall behind it. Further, a truck seems to have hit the gutter at the SE end; rainwater pours onto the platform there and splashes back against the wall.
That damage so distressed me that I took the digital back on 27 Sep 2002 to record it for all to see (I have thumbnailed these images so you can enlarge them to see just how bad things are) {Images 35, 36, and 37, l-to-r}:

The whole situation of the station is so appalling that articles about the situation are appearing in the papers; Dave Morrison went over on 18 Nov 02, after a Nor'easter, and took these appalling pictures of water on, and under, the seats in the waiting room and more views of the deteriorating front:
[I didn't notice; the outside views are comparison shots from Mar 2002 (left) to Nov 2002 (right) and have been so noted.]

(18 Nov 02 photos by D. Morrison - all rights reserved)
Dave Morrison wrote an article on the station which appeared in the Summer 2002 issue of THE FREEHOLDER, "The History Magazine of the Town of Oyster Bay" (pp. 3-5, 16-18), published by the Oyster Bay Historical Society. Coincidentally, Walter Karppi has an article in that issue ("Forgotten Ferryboats"), as do I, and all three of us are active with Loco #35 and the museum!
Oh, WOW! We knew we had a treat in store for us when we spotted the original arched beams through holes in the drop ceiling. But I, at least, had no idea quite what a magnificent sight awaited! Here, thanks to Dave Morrison, are shots taken from just above the drop ceiling; the first one is truly awesome - a cathedral ceiling, indeed!

(02 Oct 02 photos by and courtesy of D. Morrison - all rights reserved)
On 18 Feb 2005, Jim Dermody, president of the LIRR, presented a ceremonial
key to the Oyster Bay RR Station, parking plaza, and turntable to John Venditto,
Supervisor of the Town of Oyster Bay, thus marking the completion of a phase
of the restoration of the station to become the hub of the Oyster Bay RR
Museum. The station was now resplendent (externally) in it's new roof
and original bare brick and dark green wood color against white (before and
after photos):
(21 Feb 05)

Teddy Roosevelt was there, as well (in the person of Jim Foote), as were many notables from the County, Town, and local groups. There was also a nice article on page A12 of the next day's NEWSDAY, with a color photograph of John Vendito, Jim Dermody, and Dave Morrison, in which they "discuss plans to renovate the landmark station"! Real progress (sure beats East Williston all hollow)!
To contact S. Berliner, III, please click here.
To tour the Long Island railroads pages in sequence, the arrows take you from the previous page to the LIRR index, to the first LIRR page, and on to pages 2 and up, then to the other LI railroads page, and lastly to the LIRR Historical Society page.
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