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SURVIVOR BOXCAB LOCATIONS MAP

ROSTER OF SURVIVING ALCo-GE-IR BOXCABS.

NOTE:  Major rewrite, with only the roster and a linked index and listing for each North American (American and Canadian) survivor boxcab, referring to the separate pages now up for each.

All survivor data for American and Canadian and British locos is being moved to the individual survivor pages; this is now a linked roster page, only, for such locos.

There are seven (7) ALCo-GE-IR (and just GE-IR or GE alone) boxcab units surviving and four (4) B-W (or B-W-style) units, one EMC unit, plus two (2) "home-grown" Anglo-Canadian and English units and two (2) electric boxcab survivors, for a total of sixteen(16) known North American and British survivors.

BEEN THERE - DONE THAT!  01 Jul 00 - just back from Boxcab Trips 2a and 2b and have now visited and documented all surviving U.S. boxcabs!  Montréal, anyone?  Did that too, on 25 Jun 2002!

More photos were taken and will follow (as of 01 Jul 00 and 22 Jul 02).

Other surviving gas/oil-electric/diesel boxcabs (including +, @, and *, on map on main Survivors page) are noted on the Other Boxcabs continuation page.

Other surviving electric (and any other odd) boxcabs (including e, on map on main Survivors page) are noted on the Odd Boxcabs continuation page.

There are also two 1915 GE boxcab electrics in Ontario!

NOTES (by item number per listing) about each surviving boxcab oil-electric will be found on the separate pages now established for each survivor.

Hey, folks, whatever happened to that Ingersoll-Rand demonstrator, #8835, huh?  The frontispiece photo is NOT it:

(photo provenance uncertain; possibly from 1980s AAR flyer)

She is #9681, which became CNJ #1000; demo #8835 was the single-ended 1923 GE unit first demonstrated in 1924 and later scrapped by GE at Erie in 1926 (much more on this to follow elsewhere).

Old Links Revised:

1.  57-ton, ~250{?}-hp MStPR&DETCo. (Dan Patch) #100

2.  60-ton, 300-hp CNJ #1000:

3.  60-ton, 300-hp B&O #1 (later #195/#8000).

4. - deleted - see below - reassigned to South Brooklyn Railway #4, a 57-ton unit road-built in 1907 by the Brooklyn Heights Railway.

5.  60-ton, 300-hp ex-Union Carbide #3 or E.M.Co. #11 -
Detailed information on E.M.Co. #11/UC #3 is now on a separate page (not boxcuc11.html.

6.  100-ton, 600-hp Foley Bros. #110-1 -
Foley Bros. 100-ton, 600-hp unit, #110-1, the ONLY 100-tonner surviving!

7.  60-ton, 300-hp DL&W #3001 (later I-R #91).

8.  60-ton, 300-hp I-R #90.

L.  1938 GE 23-ton Lehigh Portland Cement #1:  
General Electric c/n 12447, Diesel-Electric, 6-1938, at the Midland Railway Historical Association in Baldwin City, Kansas.

    For more on 20- and 23-ton GE units, see the GE Boxcabs page and
both the Model Boxcabs and the main Model Railroad pages.

There was an earlier item 4., a 60-ton, 300-hp unit somewhere in upper midwest
probably either the DL&W #3001/IR #91 or the Dan Patch engine.

This page was especially hard hit by an image disaster [see Problem];
I hope to be able to restore most images with the help of the original sources.  (28 May 04)

Before you continue, please take a moment to consider a pair of I-R engines that survive, albeit not in a boxcab or even in a loco, but in a 1940 dredge; they need help to find parts for the air start system - see:   (08 Aug 07)

Señor Juan Viladroza of Mexico kindly sent me these great photos of General Electric electric boxcabs that survive in Mexico.

FCM #1001 in the Puebla Railway Museum GE #64193-8999 of 6/1923; Sr. V. finally got to Puebla ca. Jun 01 and shot her freshly repainted.  He had written (27 Sep 00) that the 1001 was not actually in Puebla at that moment; it was being restored at the NdeM shops and was to have been back at Puebla in Oct 00:

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(Cropped and reduced from photos courtesy of J. Viladroza - all rights reserved)

FCM #1002 ALCo-GE, 2,520hp @ 3000 volts, weight 308,350 lbs, gear ratio 90:18, builder's number 64194-9000, order number S-1409, built date 7-1923, shown in an old newspaper photo in passenger service :

FCM #1003 is at the Comision Federal de Electricidad Museum in Mexico City, GE 64195-9001, 8/1923, and Sr. Viladroza came through nobly with a photo (27 Sep 00):

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(all FCM photos courtesy of J. Viladroza)

Inside the mine, there are several Vulcan electrics working on 2' gauge track but outside are the seven 3' gauge locomotives, #4 and #5 were switchers and #11-15 in pairs work the road train to the connection to NdM (Nacionales de Mexico).

26 km of narrow gauge track still exist, now worked with diesel engines (Whitcombs and Davenports).&mnsp; These photos were taken inside the mine's shop (the #4 is outside the shop, wrecked):

RD  GE         BUILDER'S
NO  NO        DATE
==   ==          =========
4    10082     7/26
5    10863     4/29
11  9624     12/24
12  9625     12/24
13  9626     12/24
14  9627     12/24
15  9628     12/24

An e-mail came from a gentleman who just (20 Nov 01) "returned from Santa Eulalia, Chihuahua, where six of the boxcabs repose at El Potosi Mining Co., later renamed when the New York company sold the mine in 1961.  The mine has been closed since 1990 and the track has been removed.  The owner is interested in selling the remaining six electric engines, in the event you might know a collector of interest."  He is "researching the El Potosi Mining Co., which was a subsidiary of the Howe Sound Co. of New York.  El Potosi Mining Co. was formed in 1901.  The same New York owners formed the Chihuahua Mining Co. in 1890 when they purchased the steam locomotive now reposing on its turntable at Santa Eulalia.  In 1924, Howe Sound Co. purchased the electric locomotives from GE."  He then asks, " Might you know if GE has preserved its archives, which would include records on the purchase and manufacture of the engines?"  Do you?  Please let me know if you do and if you know whom to contact.

Well, now!  The owner of MNdeM, himself, has contacted me (05 Feb 02), a wee bit perturbed that he knew nothing of all this!  Not that he wouldn't consider a good offer, but such was never discussed!  Strange.  Actually (06 Feb 02), if anyone is interested, the whole MNdeM operation, mine and RR, is available.

08 Feb 02 - To be very specific, the owner is Señor Mariano Valenzuela, and he can be contacted through

SURVIVOR BOXCABS LATINOS

OFFSHORE SURVIVOR BOXCABS

B.  Ford BTH:

An American-style oil-electric boxcab is preserved in England at the Kent and East Sussex Railway, Rolvenden, East Sussex. : It is a diesel-electric switcher built in 1932 by British Thomson-Houston Company for use at the Ford Motor Co. plant at Dagenham, Essex, near London:   (27 Mar 04)

(info. and photo courtesy of P. Excell, 02 Aug 00 - all rights reserved)
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Other Offshore Survivor Boxcabs

(Photos from HCK site - all rights reserved)

Here we have #2093 doubleheading an excursion train of various four-wheel coaches with an 0-6-2 steamer which is typical for Austrian 750 mm lines; usually these excursions are run with the steamer alone and the diesel as standby:

(Cropped and reduced from photo courtesy G. W. Eckl - all rights reserved)

{more offshore locos to follow}

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More photos were taken and will follow (as of 10 Sep 99).

Roster of surviving ALCo-GE-IR (and just GE-IR or GE alone) boxcabs on preceding Survivor Boxcabs page.

Other surviving gas/oil-electric/diesel boxcabs (including +, @, and *, on map on main Survivors page) are noted on the Other Boxcabs continuation page.

Other surviving electric (and any other odd) boxcabs (including e, on map on main Survivors page) are noted on the Odd Boxcabs continuation page.

I no sooner finished redrawing the map on the preceding page and revising this page to date (13 Sep 00) than I got wind of yet another surviving U.S. boxcab!  The Roundhouse page of the North Carolina Transportation Museum shows a Piedmont & Northern boxcab #5103 enroute to their facility!  And I had just been down that way!  It turned out to be a straight electric, not an oil-electric or gas-electric, but still - - - !

Was it 100-ton Foley Bros. #110-1 at UI in July 1963, or the I-R #91 ca. 1976, or the UC #11 in July 1977?  Or could it be one that didn't survive?